[Rejected] WIM improvement suggestions, including source changes.

[Guest] [joshmiller83]: Can we get an Astrolabe fix please? Or has WIM stopped being developed?
[DevTeam] [Astaldo]: You can disable wim2wim for now or visit the forum thread where you originally posted the issue
[DevTeam] [Zeke]: Yay for spam!
[DevTeam] [Zeke]: ....
[DevTeam] [Zeke]: I love that I get emailed when someone reports spam on the boards, but I can't do anything about it.
[DevTeam] [Nachonut]: lol i got you
[DevTeam] [Astaldo]: How about "hide email address from public checked" and it's still visible in all my posts...
[DevTeam] [Astaldo]: I'd delete my account on this site, but by the time I realized the problem half the spambots on the planet had it already
[Developer] [Pazza]: Astaldo if you log out and view your profile with a refresh you'll see that your email is hidden.
[Developer] [Pazza]: Your user level on the forums permit you to see emails even though they are marked hidden.
[DevTeam] [Astaldo]: Ah.. thanks for the clarification and apologies for "crying wolf" in that case :
[DevTeam] [Kaidenn]: PAZZA! i miss you.
[DevTeam] [Nachonut]: Lol, it's funny how it takes spam message reports to get me to come back
[DevTeam] [sylvanaar]: Check out the beta tester forum. Need alpha testers and feedback so I can come up with a maintenance plan.
[Developer] [Pazza]: loaded some new spam prevention modules... lets see if this stops the bastards.
[DevTeam] [Maziel]: Thought I'd check in and say Howdy Doody from Australia
[DevTeam] [Maziel]: Yeah the spam from shoes salesmen was becoming insane
[Guest] [Delakando]: What ever happened to the ability to track friend's location by wim? Other then just showing their general zone location.
Zeke pokes his head around the corner.
[DevTeam] [Zeke]: Anybody home?
[Guest] [Theillur]: I would like to know if it is just me.
[Guest] [Theillur]: http://www.wimaddon.com/forums/index.php/topic,1796.0.html
[Guest] [Nev]: I'm here
[Guest] [Nev]: I don't think anyone else is though
[Guest] [tomasio]: great site [url=http://freeonlinemusicvideos.net].[/url] [url=http://freepeopleclothing.org].[/url]
[Guest] [Theillur]: Nev it is not working for Zeke as well.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: im here
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: ...
lothaer yawns sleepily.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: sooooooooooooooooo
[Guest] [j3ff]: Hello. It is very quiet. I would love a response to my thread directly below your "Been very quiet" thread!
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: Check out my new post in the Skins forum
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: Posted a new download in the skins forum check it out
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: Zeke, Maziel, Pazza, Nachonut, sylvanaar, Kaidenn, Astaldo where are you?
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: It would be a real shame if WIM was left to die.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: i think these forums are dead, Sylvanaar dosnt post on them as he only bug fixes when possible. WIMs future isnt very bright
[Guest] [justgiz]: Yea, its rather sad.
[Guest] [silvercola]: I wish it had skype
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: noy possible for a addon to do.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: ...........
[Guest] [elzershark]: where is the download file?
lothaer beckons everyone over to you.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: has anyone been able to take WIM to the beta yet?
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: PTR*
[DevTeam] [Maziel]: *sticks head up and looks around*
lothaer cries.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: who the hell flagged my post as spam?
[Guest] [primalforce]: Hey guys
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: hello Primalforce.
[DevTeam] [lothaer]: PAZZA COME BACK!!!

[cobraa1]

WARNING: A modified version of WIM. MAKE A BACKUP OF YOUR OLD CODE!

Disclaimer: This is not Pazza's code, and he does not support it. Use at your own risk.

So, I've been toiling away with some modifications that I think would improve the WIM experience.

The result is the attached file, demonstrating how WIM *could* work.

Based on 3.1.1.

Improvements are:
-Tabs always appear.
-Tabs essentially replace the title bar text, so it's the same size as the regular window.
-You can move tabs without the shift key.

Basically, I'm trying to make it act like Google Chrome.

Known bugs:
-Sometimes windows get stuck on your mouse and you have to force reload. I think this was already a bug before I started, though.

This is implemented as a skin: The new skin is named "WIM Chrome"

But it *DOES* include code changes, which are required to make it behave correctly.

I've implemented it so that it goes back to the old behaviors if you switch to another skin.

It should give a good idea of how (in my opinion) the interface could be improved.

It's available here.

[Pazza]

I respect you sharing your modifications, but I don't want to cause confusion with people. There is no way to keep track if people are using WIM or you're hacked WIM. You know they are just going to come bitching to me about something.

Other than that, I really don't know how to respond to this thread... Please do not post this on any addon sites.

[cobraa1]

Other than that, I really don't know how to respond to this thread... Please do not post this on any addon sites.

I have not posted it on any addon sites.

You may respond however you like, including asking me to take it down, which I will do if you ask me to.

[cobraa1]

I've just pulled it for now. I'm still working on it, but for now there's no public release.

I've fixed the problem of not being able to switch tabs (it passes clicks to the tab underneath), so it's basically functional right now.

[cobraa1]

Yay . I've actually finished it. It works. Just need to do some cleanup, and it'll be ready.

But - what should I do with it?

I have a few options in mind:

• Do what I did last time - just make it publicly available
• Present it as a series of diff files, which essentially requires the user to be somewhat technical to use.
• If Pazza is interested in integrating it into the main project, I could just send it to him.

The modifications are backwards compatible with old skins - the new skin tells WIM to use the new behavior.

Basically, it acts like Google's Chrome browser - the tabs can be dragged on or off with ease, and without the special shift modifier. All windows have tabs, including windows with a single tab. There is no distinction between a "tabbed" and a "tabless" window, as far as the user is concerned, although the distinction is kept in the code for compatibility with other skins. The tab(s) replace the title bar - the resulting window is about the same size as tabless windows with the other skins.

[Pazza]

I will take a look at it. You can keep it in the thread here. just realize next time I release an update, it'll have to be redone again. I will definitely look at your changes though.

[cobraa1]

just realize next time I release an update, it'll have to be redone again.

Well, I've got some diff utilities that make my life a bit easier. Plus, I've learned a lot about how LUA and WIM work, so future modifications should be easier. Sorry about expressing some frustration when I first posted. I should know that comes with the territory when it comes to software development. I've cleaned that up a bit.